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Sent: 15 December 2005 15:02
To: rob@learn-to-play-drums.com
Subject: BASIC KIT - not spam
Hi there – My 10-year
old wants to play drums. I am thinking of buying him a kit for Christmas.
Would it be better to buy just the basics… snare, hi-hat and bass
rather than a full kit? My sense is that unless he gets the simple
beat down first, he’ll get distracted by all the possibilities.
I’m not convinced he has
the innate ability. Myself, I have always been able to drum with my
hands with a single source… like bongos or hands on a table… but I have
never been able to integrate the bass pedal on a counter beat. Is
that something one can learn? Or do you just get it… or not?
Thanks for your help.
I’m very impressed by your site.
MY Reply:
From:
rob@learn-to-play-drums.com
Sent: December 15, 2005 3:58 PM
To:
Subject: RE: BASIC KIT - not spam - Reply
from Rob@learn-to-play-drums.com -
Andrew,
Hi thank
you for your kinds words about my site. I very much appreciate
them
As they say
there are many ways to get from A to B:
I teach
kids in a local school, they are a bit younger aged around 7 to 8 than your
son.
Here are
some of my guidelines to teaching kids are:
1)
It must be fun to do for them,
otherwise they will get bored and to make it fun I play music that they like
(usually slow hip hop or rock music with an easy 8th note beat to
copy. My own kids love “Yellow Submarine” by the Beatles for all the silly
words!! I followed your link and saw you mentioned the Beatles) and then get
them to tap along to the beat first, then to start playing the “drums” by just
tapping out basic beats. You don’t need a drum kit here, just sit down on
a chair at a table and tap away very slowly to start with, print out my page of
basic beats For Example the 8th note rock beat and then use my counting
article and common beats page to listen to it yourself so you can teach it
J
If they are right
handed .Your right hand plays the pretend hi hat, the left hand the pretend
snare and your right foot the pretend bass/kick drum. So tap the right hand on
the counts " 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + " say + as "and" Tap left hand on " 2 4 " Tap right
foot on " 1 3 "
2)
Don’t spend more than 5 mins
on new things as they lose interest real quick J
3)
Tell them, show them and then
get them to repeat it E.g tell them what a single stroke roll is and then
show them it slowly and then get them to copy you together and then on their
own. You can then provide comment and
feedback
4)
When you are teaching resist
the temptation to practice yourself. It is very easy to do stuff that you
want to do that isn’t really right for them or start playing a a 5 min drum
solo!!!!
My other thoughts would
be:
1) Before getting a kit, get some sticks and a practice
pad from you local music shop and do (1) above. Pretend your right hand plays
the pretend hi hat, the left hand the pretend snare and your right foot the
pretend bass/kick drum.
A few years ago I went though a
phase of playing my practise pad whilst watching the music channels and in
particular Kerrang. I was going through a metal phase which I have now to an
extent passed!!!. Again, 90% of the beats will be one of the 4 main dance
beats so they can play along. If you have access to music channels you can
sit in front MTV or similar and do 1 above. I do this with my daughter
some times. Or of course just turn on the radio or tune into an internet radio
station to do the same.
2) Maybe go and have a few lessons with a local teacher
with your son. That way they and you can actually sit behind a kit and be shown
some of the basic stuff. Then you can start to know if this is something that
they you/they want to do more often, which I bet you will because it is great
fun!!!
3) If you want to jump straight to a kit, then get cheap
second hand kit first, you can usually get very reasonably priced 5 piece kits
(Snare, bass drum, toms, hi,-hat and cymbals) for about £200 UK pounds.
Don’t under any circumstances buy a new kit at this stage as they are grossly
overpriced!!! If you don’t get into drumming you can sell the kit on and if you
want to go upmarket then you can sell the cheap kit to fund the next
purchase.
Lastly, re having a full kit and getting distracted,
well that is the fun of having a full kit, getting distracted and hitting lots
of drums that make lots of different sounds !!!!! Learning the core beats
is great but really doesn’t take that long and as I say above teaching kids is
about have fun with them to keep their interest.
And they learn by playing themselves so I try to teach
some stuff for a while, but then let them play on the kit with no rules or just
bang along to a song because it is fun to just hit all the drums and cymbals. To
me it part of life and the Yin and Yang of life. Study something like a
single stroke roll and then just “play” for fun on the kit with no rules and in
doing some “Playing “ you might just learn something like improving
co-ordination around the kit!!! Jazz guys call it
improvisation….
Re using your right foot, I am not sure by what you mean
as a counter beat ? Do you mean playing your right foot on the main beats
of 1 2 3 and 4 at the same time as you right hand or do you mean playing your
right foot in a syncopated way that is the equivalent of a single stroke
roll with you hands and feet
This is sort excerpt from my new ebook on learning to
play drums that covers playing syncopated beats between your hands and feet, it
might help.
For your ongoing development as a drummer it is very
important that you practice single stroke rolls between your hands and
feet.
Why ?
Because that is how you will be able to play syncopated
rhythms as you progress.
First here is a single stroke roll between you hands and
feet.
|
Traditional
Count |
1 |
e |
+ |
& |
2 |
e |
+ |
& |
|
Right Hand
on hi hat |
X |
|
X |
|
X |
|
X |
|
|
Right foot
on the bass drum |
|
X |
|
X |
|
X |
|
X |
As a beginner I am afraid that this will feel very
uncomfortable (if not very very uncomfortable. It took me a long time to
get this OK and even now it still feels odd at times). The reason is that
you right hand and foot are very connected and want to hit down together.
Like I have said a lot already start very slowly and
only when you are playing it correctly and accurately start to get
faster.
Now if you want to get faster here is the technique I
use:
|
Traditional
Count |
1 |
e |
+ |
& |
|
Right Hand
on hi hat |
Hand strokes down |
Hand strokes up |
Hand strokes down |
Hand strokes up |
|
Right foot
on the bass drum |
Foot raises up |
Foot strokes down |
Foot raises up |
Foot strokes
down |
Basically as my hand goes down my foot comes up, ready
to play the next stroke and then as my foot goes down on the next stroke my hand
comes up again ready to play the next stroke.
My hand and foot, in effect, are cycling round each
other
Hope this all helps
And am very happy to answer anymore questions you have.
Take Care and welcome to the family of
drummers!!!!
Rob
Passionate about drums and
music